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It is no secret anymore that two databases containing private informations on car registrations and phone numbers have been leaked for official entities, and widely available on the 'black' (not so black and kind of overt) market. A couple of days ago, a Lebgeeker published his new product LebTel, a facebook app that allows you to browse this database.
Today I stumble across this fellow Lebanese blogger (The app somehow found its way in the Apple App Store, talk about strict policies).These databases are highly illegal, and constitute a great invasion of privacy. In the total absence of any official reaction (they react when the president is insulted on Facebook, but when the whole country has their privacy torn apart, they're awfully silent), I'm sending this call to Lebgeekers and every other geek in the country.Our access to data is a great power but a great responsibility. It is our duty to show that the hacking community here on Lebgeeks (and in Lebanon) has strong ethics.
Whether you happen to own these databases or know someone who does, please avoid publishing the information publicly. Keep the databases, I do not care. But be responsible. Do not publish them on the internet.Think about every person close to you that has their name, maiden name, address, car plate number, personal phone number widely available (without their consent) on the internet. If no one is going to protect their privacy, maybe we should.I call for a application hunt.
Everytime one of us crosses path with these applications, please report them and bring them down. Contact the publisher, and ask to take the application down on terms of illegal content. If they refuse contact us here, we have ways of making them do it. Well, I don't think this is such a big deal, since we all know that these 'databases' have been widespread across Lebanon for a while now, and easily accessible to anyone who admired to get his hands on them. Making an app is just making it more public, and more accessible; nothing more. Our privacy has always been invaded here in Lebanon.
And 'this' comes as no surprise. Illegal, yes I do agree! But Lebanon has been rated of one of the most corrupt countries. So basically, it comes as no surprise that my private info here in Lebanon is actually not that private. It's common sense when you live in such a country.
Protest against it. But your privacy won't be any more private that it actually is in reality!Last edited by jadf24 (November 3 2010).
Before you read this, I am not pointing this at anyone, I'm talking in General about Lebanon's caseI am a Lebanese and I my right of freedom to do what I want.sounds familiar eh?;PThis should be a process for the Government to do. We are all just small voicesHow do you expect for the law to be enforced if the supposed law 'enforcers' don't even follow the law themselves?The DBs were leaked since they were sooooo easy to acquire. No password, no encryption, no private computer, not even as a hidden folder. My friend told told me that they are available at any computer in Ogero's offices on the Desktop!!! Like.snap finger. that and all you need is just to know someone who works there(Janitor if you want!)Are we to blame the ones who leak the info, or the weak/no-security that allows anyone to just barge it, take what 'you' want, and go out.Yes, privacy is an issue, but the bigger issue is the ones who protects itIn most of the world, Governments take this EXTREMELY seriously and take Long and Heavy action to make sure everyone's private information is safe(unless Corruption runs high in the country, ex: Lebanon)For this reason I am not with, nor am I against anyone publishing this DBs online. We must send a clear message to the Government that Privacy is our right and they should enforce it.
Now if you know my number, you can know who I am, where I live, Do I care? Yes, but what Can I do?
Until the system gets fixed here. I simply don't care If someone published something about me or I publish something against someone.Last edited by Raficoo (November 3 2010). Yes, privacy is an issue, but the bigger issue is the ones who protects it(unless Corruption runs high in the country, ex: Lebanon)but what Can I do?
Until the system gets fixed here.im with you 100%eventhough these databses contain private info about us, im so sure that even more private info than, for example my mother's name and where i live, can be attained so easily in such a corrupt contry.' Wasta' can get you anything you want in Lebanon. So whatever we will do. We can never be safe and have total privacy in a corrupt state.
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Ya, let's sign a petition to crackdown this DBs and preserve our privacy. Unfortunately, knowing that the letter would probably be thrown to a waste basket I wouldn't bother.
I mean, how can you stop DBs on CDs being sold in public streets if you can't stop CP being sold on the public bloody street!!(yes, those Very poor areas in Beirut where they sell Chinese-made cloths and mass copied DvD stuff, they sell pR0n and ILLEGAL pR0n), and no one cares(especially not the government). Outside the country, the ones selling these stuff(even if they're not the ones who made it can get sentenced to Prison for a long, loooong time).
We, as Lebanon's IT head, know these things, we have the knowledge, we have the voice, but we simply don't have the power to influence a corrupted government. Try as we might(and we shall) I doubt anything shall be done. I apologize for the attitude, but I'm simply trying to point out the harsh truth.Last edited by Raficoo (November 3 2010). No It's not, you can call 1515 and ask for anyone's phone number including their region or you can search them here but they don't tell you which street, building and apartment.about action, if you believe in something you fight for it, you could lose but It's better than doing nothing, you can go down trying or go down surrendering.Edit: if the itunes apps can be taken down and any attempt to publish the database on the web or as software is good enough, who gives an ass about lebanese people who have the database and informationLast edited by incinerator (November 3 2010). Ok quick summary:- We cannot stop the spreading of the database.
But this is not the issue. Anyone who knows enough IT to browse the Access database on their own, will have access to that data anyway.
What is dangerous is when we start building frontends on top of it to allow anyone, even computer illiterate, to access the data. It is these interfaces that I want to bring down.- A great idea was mentioned, let's demand these databases be secured and encrypted. It is very common in Lebanon to leave data unencrypted. I have friends working in IT from various fields telling me how their companies (banks, ISP, phone companies.) do not even encrypt the password of the user.Finally for the people who say it's useless there's no need etc.
Please stop posting here. We don't need your negative spirit. If you think what we're trying to do here is useless, just smile and pass your way. We know it is difficult, we know the country is corrupt, we know all those things. You're not telling us anything new, you know.
I guess there are simply two types of people in the world: those who complain and those who fight. Whose side are you on? I don't understand why you guys are so worked up about this. Here in canada all that information can be accessed through the canada 411 service and nobody cares. Plus here it's more accurate and gives you exact location on google maps with postal code app number and everything.
So just get over it it's not that big of deal, just be grateful it doesn't include a name lookup;)However i do agree with the car plate number. Although it's kinda coolLast edited by unforgiven (November 3 2010). Load the App StoreSearch for “Lebanon Directory”Select any of the following apps:- Lebanon Directory- Lebanon Cars DirectoryClick on the “Report a Problem” link in the top right cornerSelect either:- This application is offensive- My concern is not listed hereEnter your Comments, something along the lines of:“This application uses a stolen database of confidential personal records from the Interior Ministry of Lebanon. The use of the database outside of the Ministry is illegal. The possession of this data by a non-government agency is illegal.”Click the blue Report button in the top right cornerAnd this is the articleThe more I think about the issue the more I see how horrible this is and the amount of problems it can lead to. Just think how this can facilitate the work of thieves and criminals in tracking down potential victims and easily finding them.
Just imagine how many people would be hurt from this stupid application from which these people are making money out of. We already have very bad security on the level of protecting individuals, now it has become worse.
Now that this information is online people from foreign countries can track down every single person.When I first saw that application I though t of it as a bit 'cool' but then when you think about it you realize that this is extremely immoral leaving legal stuff aside. Even if something is legal, it doesn't mean it is moral. We need a revolution on all levels in this stupid country, we need a stronger and more ethical government.I am with you guys about fighting against this application and spread of the database.
Just imagine somone with malicious intents using it on you or someone you know.Last edited by Ayman (November 6 2010). The dangerous thing is that someone can find my phone number from the database and then?Or perhaps link my name to a certain position? I think once you are on that list, you're already not an MVP, so it's a 'safe' list that people would quickly discard you from being a big fish.Is it illegal to do some data-entry from the white and yellow pages and post them on the AppStore?That's all on one front.The other end is: If everyone has access to the DB, why are you advocating closing this thread and removing awareness about the subject. Imagine Wikileaks being closed. Awareness is much more important as a security precaution than hiding info from the villains (peoples are usually blisfully ignorant while mischievous people are on the prail. You're only helping the bad side).The real issue here we need to stress on is: The government has no protection procedure at this very basic level (I'd expect them to want to protect this data for some reason). They fail at that.
This should be all over the media! How can we change that. We need to see some people embarrassed from all of this.
The dangerous thing is that someone can find my phone number from the database and then?Or perhaps link my name to a certain position? I think once you are on that list, you're already not an MVP, so it's a 'safe' list that people would quickly discard you from being a big fish.Is it illegal to do some data-entry from the white and yellow pages and post them on the AppStore?That's all on one front.Ok say I'm driving and I see a girl in the car next to me. Testosterone flies to my brain and I go all caveman, I start honking at her. I find a way to get next to her in traffic, and engage an intense conversation with my classy language (something along the ways of 'shu ya ahsta?' Now the girl is not weak and knows how to defend herself.
She answers in such a way that btebkha3ne. I feel frustrated like hell, and start seeing red.Then I calm down. No need to get upset. There's a really easy way to get my revenge. I note her car number, go home. Thanks to the work of some genius computer developers, I can get her name, address and phone number.
I now start calling twenty times a day, send perverted SMS, basic harassing techniques. I'm having fun, feel like I'm getting my revenge from the time she embarrassed me.Oh and the girl is your mother/sister/girlfriend/wife/.Do you now see a dangerous thing?
If you hit the bars in Gemmayze this weekend and manage to get the number of that guy or girl you’ve been chatting up, you’ll also be able to find out where he or she lives. Just punch their digits into a new iPhone application.It’s called Lebanon Directory, and by typing in a person’s 9-digit phone number, anyone using the application can find out the name of the person who owns the number and their home address.The program is available on the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad, and it's one of two new applications causing concern about privacy protection.Sabine Abi Farah discovered the application last Monday when a colleague came to her bursting with excitement over the new technology. “We punched in all the people we know and all of their information came up,” Abi Farah said.She was using both Lebanon Directory and the Lebanese Car Plate Directory, an application that provides information about vehicle owners. “Enter any car plate number and select its proper symbol to get its information,” the application’s instructions read.Abi Farah plugged in her license plate number and got the following: Her home address, her marital status, her husband’s name and her car’s make, model and year.If the owner of a license plate number has a loan on his or her car, that too will be listed, along with the name of the bank from which is was taken.“Honestly, I feel raped. It’s like raping someone,” Abi Farah said.“I could be going home and maybe a guy behind me who would like to see where I live could find out by typing my license plate number into his phone. It’s really outrageous,” she said.Lebanese Car Plate Directory and Lebanon Directory can both be purchased for $6.99 on iTunes.Mobile content company Double U, which developed the applications, declined to comment or provide any information about their products.But a Beirut-based website developer said a program like this is easy to develop.
“If the information was available and in a computerized format, and they collected it and simply turned it into an RSS feed, it would take only a few weeks to develop, if that,” he said, requesting NOW Lebanon not publish his name for privacy reasons.Still, the question remains as to how Double U got the information of Lebanese car owners and cell phone users. The Ministry of Interior exclusively controls data regarding license plate numbers, while the Ministry of Telecommunications is responsible for data regarding phone numbers. The release of these databases to a third party is against the law, said Dr.
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Toni Issa, lawyer and president of the IT Committee for the Beirut Bar Association.The only way for a third party to legally obtain information regarding phone numbers is if the cell phone subscriber expresses written consent allowing their mobile operator to make their personal information public, he said.When a person buys a SIM card, or unique mobile number, neither the mobile company nor the distributor asks permission to distribute a user’s information. They do, however, ask for a name and address, and a request a copy of the buyer’s Lebanese ID or passport.
That information is kept in a database, and is given to the Ministry of Telecommunications upon request, according to an MTC Touch customer service representative who spoke to NOW Lebanon.“There is no way to obtain this information, especially that of the car plate directory, unless if someone from inside this administration copied the database containing the information,” Issa said.Copying or stealing databases is a direct violation of the Lebanese Penal Code. The only people who can legally solicit this information are the police or judicial authorities. “Therefore, any kind of usage of this informationis strictly illegal,” Issa said. Moreover, Issa says the use of the information violates intellectual property and consumer protection laws.Despite the legal violations the programs pose, some believe they can be advantageous.“I can use this when guys mess with me,” said one Lebanese girl.
While stuck in traffic, a man in the car next to her had asked her for directions, then made crude remarks. “I could’ve used this to find his address, and sent someone over to deal with him.”. Ghassanthis information must not be given away without the approval of the concerned person. Each person should have the freedom of choice to either reveal or hide their private info and the law must protect this freedom of choice.we are part of the internet and social networking generation and we've all seen the dangers and troubles that might happen due to giving away private info!these applications will become a dangerous tool each time they fall in the wrong hands.anyone who has a problem with someone driving a car,he or she can take their car registration number and report it to the police who will then make sure to take the required legal actions.
WaelTo the persons claiming this is public for in 'all modernized country', this is NOT TRUE. I live in Canada and in the U.S and Canada, you can't get this info because it's governed by the Driver's Privacy Protection Act: you know the Vin # of the car, you can go to sites like CARFAX and view the vehicle history report, but it DOES NOT INCLUDE owner's names and addresses. For the other info like debt status and credit history, you have to have a signed consent from the person in order to request a credit or security check; and for the marital status and spouse name, the government will certainly not disclose this info.
Your phone and address is available by default through yellow pages but you can request to unlist it. AnonymousWelcome to Lebanon shabab, the government doesn't really care about this anyways.
All you need to do is know someone who works at any branch office for Ogero(even if it's a janitor). Go to any computer office.
The DB's right on the desktop. Not encrypted, no password, hell it's not even hidden. I believe it's the government's fault for not enforcing strict policies on how the DBs are stored and where they are stored.
Until the government can fix this problem(which it won't. Believe me) I don't care if some Ones knows who am I or who they are. RolandContrary to what one commentator said, in Foreign countries, car plate numbers are not made public just for anyone to consult whenever they like. That is incorrect. The database is only used by law enforcement agencies.Relevant laws are the The Drivers Privacy Protection Act in the USA,whereas according to the law you have to Ask for a request form from the DMV.
Be advised that most of the forms for locating owners through their license plate numbers are available only to government officials, businesses and their agents. For instance, you may need to have the form filled out by a police officer or an insurance agency that can verify the legal reasons why you are seeking this information.Certainly not through an i-phone application.
CDAhmad you are wrong. Not all modernized countries have this information publicly available. This is what us Lebanese always claim.
The information of this application most probably came from the General Security. As you know, each Lebanese guy has a cousin somewhere, that knows someone, that can copy a mdb file. If there was justice, then this company will be closed and the General Security guy released of his duties. This application is a clear violation of privacy, and a really dishonest way to make few bucks (which might be more than we think considering it's the single most grossing app on the Lebanese app store - goes to say how curious we are regardless of our morals).
